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kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov

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fleg
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 12.06.2005 - 13:58 #20540
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samozrejme viem ze snr+ moze byt haluz ale ako som pisal od tejto hodboty sa signal dlhodobo moc neodchyloval. vyzera to skor na rusenie. prehodil som ap na 1 kanal a stratil som s nim spojenie. objavilo sa nahodne po 300 packetoch potom zase 600 packetov pauza a tak nahodne. na 1 kanale som si teda moc nepingol;o). vystihol som chvilu ked som mal spojenie a ap prehodil spat na 10 a uz mam zase klasicky pasketloss.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 12.06.2005 - 14:04 #20541
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takze aby som to (mozno) cele uzavrel. ap podla ap-configu vysiela na 11 kanali a klient na 1. napriek tomu su spojene (asi specialita atmelov ze kaslu na vsetko a zaujima ich len mac adresa) a bombonik na zaver....packetloss pri 1400B packetoch je 0%.
existuju veci medzi nebom a zemou ktore nikdy nepochopime;o)
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 12.06.2005 - 14:08 #20543
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fleg: pokial mas infrastructure mod tak kanal na klientovi nenastavujes, on si najde vyhovujuce AP podla kriterii (essid, pripadne mac) a napoji sa nan ak toto AP vysiela v rozsahu kanalov vyhovujich norme nastavenej na klientskom AP
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 12.06.2005 - 20:51 #20574
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a este jedna zaujimavost. odozvy na bocny lalok aj ked je 0% loss su v priemere 20-30ms. pri 12km spoji mam odozvy 8ms (1400B).
 
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jmi
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 13.06.2005 - 10:50 #20582
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to svedci len o tom, ze packet sa priemerne doruci az na 2-3ti pokus. Teda zataz hlavny spoj na max, a bocny lalol nepojde podla mna vobec, nakolko musi mat neporovnatelne mensi signal ako hlavny (sudiac z casu odozvy) a teda ho nebude pocut, ked bude kricat ten 12km klient stale dake data smerom na to AP.
Este je taka moznost, ze velkost toho pingu merias v case ked je vytazeny iba 12km spoj a bocnym spojom netecu takmer ziadne data... testni tak ze budes tahat z bocneho klienta a potom meraj pingy na oboch. Mozno sa situacia "prekvapivo" otoci.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 13.06.2005 - 11:02 #20583
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ten 12km spoj je ina antena. momentalne mam predny lalok hluchy nakolko protikus je mimo prevadzky a na antenu som pripojil len dalsieho klienta na zadobocny.
pre porovnanie toto je 12km spoj csat24hp predne laloky klasika
105 packets transmitted, 56 received, 46% packet loss, time 104549ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.993/2.044/2.205/0.055 ms
packetloss je sposobeny niecim co si neviem vysvetlit lebo velke packety maju loss 0%. vsimnite si skor stabilitu signalu ziadne odchylky od avg hodnoty
1400B packety
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 99984ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 8.212/8.606/18.669/1.433 ms
opat ziadne odchylky avg je 8ms.
toto je ten zadobocny 2km klient je csat 22db oproti 24 californii. tu su vysledky dost zaujimave
323 packets transmitted, 323 received, 0% packet loss, time 325217ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.174/4.374/27.839/2.664 ms
velke packety
107 packets transmitted, 106 received, 0% packet loss, time 107026ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 12.293/38.911/135.913/22.591 ms
za prve mam priemr 38ms max je dokonca na 135ms (vyleti to nad 100 pri kazdom merani) cize spoj sa jai ako o ovela "nestabilnejsi" ci uz pri velkych alebo malych packetoch.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 13.06.2005 - 11:54 #20584
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fleg wrote: ›ten 12km spoj je ina antena. momentalne mam predny lalok hluchy nakolko protikus je mimo prevadzky a na antenu som pripojil len dalsieho klienta na zadobocny.
pre porovnanie toto je 12km spoj csat24hp predne laloky klasika
105 packets transmitted, 56 received, 46% packet loss, time 104549ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.993/2.044/2.205/0.055 ms
packetloss je sposobeny niecim co si neviem vysvetlit lebo velke packety maju loss 0%. vsimnite si skor stabilitu signalu ziadne odchylky od avg hodnoty
1400B packety
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 99984ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 8.212/8.606/18.669/1.433 ms
opat ziadne odchylky avg je 8ms.
toto je ten zadobocny 2km klient je csat 22db oproti 24 californii. tu su vysledky dost zaujimave
323 packets transmitted, 323 received, 0% packet loss, time 325217ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.174/4.374/27.839/2.664 ms
velke packety
107 packets transmitted, 106 received, 0% packet loss, time 107026ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 12.293/38.911/135.913/22.591 ms
za prve mam priemr 38ms max je dokonca na 135ms (vyleti to nad 100 pri kazdom merani) cize spoj sa jai ako o ovela "nestabilnejsi" ci uz pri velkych alebo malych packetoch.


Hm...Ked je protikus hluchy je mi zahadou preco tam nedas vsesmerovku pripadne spplitter a sektorovku a laborujes tu nad zjavne nepouzitelnymi vecami,ktore su vhodne maximalne pre klienta ktory si pozrie parkrat za tyzden postu (a ani pre neho nie,lebo taky neda 3000 za antenu vsakano Wink )
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalo  PostPosted: 13.06.2005 - 13:21 #20591
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aby som vysvetlil. pod azimutom nula mam smerovy spoj. 2-3km zduchom 24 db californie (tento spoj nerieste momentalne je mimo prevadzky). pod azimutom 135 stupnom chytam na 2km vzdialenom mieste 3 signaly z vlastnych anten. pomerne slaby signal csat24db nasmerovanu na azimut 270 stupnov, velmi silny signal s californie a stredny signal zo svojej vsesmerky. prvou moznostou bolo napojit klienta na vsesmerku. kedze vsak na tom mieste sirim signal dalej chcel som sa vyhnut znamemu problemu dlhych a kratkych klientov. kedze graf netstumblera ukazoval prekvapive dobre hodnoty z californie rozhodol som sa napojit klienta na nu. na minimalizovanie rusenia som zvolil hp antenu.
v praxi ma vsak prekvapili skakajuce hodnoty pingov a divna stabilita signalu. tento thread som zalozil preto aby som sa dozvedel ci bocny alebo zadny lalok ma nejake nevyhody oproti prednemu (to by vysetlovalo tie skoky).
 
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jmi
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalo  PostPosted: 13.06.2005 - 15:04 #20596
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ako mas nastavene rts, frag a retry limity na ap a ako na SAckach na kt. si uvadzal pingy?
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalo  PostPosted: 13.06.2005 - 18:31 #20603
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to ma napadlo ako prve a preto som vsetky ap resetol do defaultu najprv. cize su v defaulte (tieto hodnoty som nikdy nemenil)
 
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Post subject: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 14.06.2005 - 07:22 #20611
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Ja mozem len zavidiet ze mas vobec nejaky spoj na 12 km na 2,4 Ghz Crying or Very sad
 
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Post subject: RE: kvalita signalu z bocnych (zadnych) lalokov  PostPosted: 14.06.2005 - 08:53 #20613
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gyro neboj na kazdeho dojde...na streche chytam na orinoco s tou malou antenkou 20ap a to co tu riesim je imho na 90% sposobene rusenim
 
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